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Ben

I agree with you here, and I believe the solution is not "well rounded" pastors so we have "well rounded" churches.

The solution is a second reformation that returns the ministry to the people and people truly see themselves as the priesthood of all believers and mediators of the gospel.

Tragically...our church leaders and pastors tend to perpetuate the very passivity they grow to hate. They create the very personality cults they do not want (or maybe they do) by not seeing themselves as equippers (Eph 4).

Even our assimilation processes are basically "let us help you find your gifting, so you can help us do church".

This is very true. Where ever the pastors focus is that is what comes out in sermons, his private conversations, and so forth. I have found that most of the time he does not even realize it.

This is very true. Where ever the pastors focus is that is what comes out in sermons, his private conversations, and so forth. I have found that most of the time he does not even realize it.

sorry for the repeat :)

Ben: I would like to hear more of your thoughts on this... maybe in another post?

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